Our Communion is NOT a Eucharist?
We are watching certain evangelicals accept the Roman Catholic teaching of the Eucharist which the Roman catholic church claims is changed into the actual body and blood and deity of Jesus by the priest.
Why is this not true?
In John 6 which was long before the Passover meal when Jesus reveled the new covenant in the 1,500 year old tradition of Passover. He said "For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." Then they said to Him, "Lord, give us this bread always." And Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. John 6:33-35)
We come to HIM, we are believe what He says because of who He is. He said HE is the bread NOT the bread is HIM. Read carefully what he explained.
John 6:38-41 "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. "This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." The Jews then complained about Him, because He said, "I am the bread which came down from heaven."
Those who understand who he is (the one who came down from heaven) believe what he teaches will be given eternal life. He had no bread to show but said he is bread (nourishment). Jesus said this earlier in John 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Not who eats the bread. Eating is a synonym for believing, to consume what he is teaching them, the spirit is life.
The people were split, some thought he meant to physically eat. But to the Jewish people they who understood His words they would remember where it is said in Deut. 8:3 "So He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the LORD.”
This is the very subject Jesus uses next to explain to them what He means.
John 6:47-51 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. "I am the bread of life. Jesus says He Himself the bread (not bread itself) "Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. "This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world."
He said of himself He is living bread; The bread came down from heaven, not originating on earth in bakeries to be changed by some mystical process of a priest. It came from heaven. In Jn.6 he had no bread, but words. Anything after has to be understood in what he already defined.
John 6:56-58 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him." As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. "This is the bread which came down from heaven-- not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever."
Again he identifies himself as bread coming from heaven and that it refers to a relationship abiding in him and he in them. Jesus explains because of their misunderstanding that it is not like food that was provided for them that they actually eat physically.
Jesus rarely corrected people is his ministry of Christ by stating they are wrong but by telling them the answer.
John 6:62-63"What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?" It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.”
Again He points to his place of origin, heaven, and tells them the Spirit gives them life, its not about the flesh (physical) it is the word of His teaching they ingest for life.
In fact ten times he mentions He is the bread that comes down from Heaven (not produced on earth). Heaven accompanies the statement of bread so that one cannot miss the correlation. He (the son of God) came from heaven to feed them His words. His word is what one believes to have eternal life.
V. 64-69 "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father." From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more. Then Jesus said to the twelve, "Do you also want to go away?" But Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life." Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
He let many learners go away in their ignorance because of a lack of belief (faith). Jesus asks if the other disciples want to join those leaving. Peter shows his commitment to learn, stating there is nowhere else to go, You have the words of eternal life. Those who stay on to hear His words will get understanding (John 6:68).
John says he has written people the message that leads to eternal life (John 20:31). However, John leaves out the story of the Lords table that is included in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Yet John has more details of what took place at the Passover feast celebrated in the upper room, the last supper of the disciples together, the Pesach meal of the Passover feast.
Mark 14:12 “Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they killed the Passover lamb, His disciples said to Him, "Where do You want us to go and prepare, that You may eat the Passover?"
The lamb is to be killed to be eaten at the Pesach meal. Luke 22:7 says it like this “Then came the Day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover must be killed.”
Luke 22:15-20 Then He said to them, "With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; "for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God." Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, "Take this and divide it among yourselves; "for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes." And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me." Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you. (Mark 14:23-26 )
First Jesus is saying he is eating the Passover meal, He calls the cup, the fruit of the vine, which is part of the Passover service they have celebrated for 1,500 years. Were the Jewish people ingesting Jesus once a year before He was incarnated as man? Think about this biblically. It was the same Passover they had been remembering since the Exodus. Was the new covenant was given back in the Old Testament, how confusing. The bread was matzah, unleaven, the stripes and holes pierced in the unleaven bread represent his body at the crucifixion, It was not his body before it was striped and pierced.
1 Cor. 5:7 Paul writes, “Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.”
Why do they not take this literally, do we really have actual leaven in us to be removed, or is it representing something else? Notice he says Christ is the Passover, the lamb, not bread.
Who is the lamb to be sacrificed? We read John 19:16 Then he delivered Him to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus and led Him away. Like a lamb to its slaughter. Jesus said the bread and wine were (representing) the new covenant. The covenant is He as the lamb sacrificed on Passover in front of Israel.
Later when Paul writes of the Passover Jesus spent with his disciples. 1 Cor. 11:23-27 Paul explains that Christ said to “do this in remembrance of Me." If you are remembering him then he cannot actually be present in the bread.
v. 26 “For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes. Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.”
Look what he taught, that you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes” by taking the communion. This means He does NOT become the communion, he has NOT come back in the communion, the bread and juice. We are portraying what He did in a symbol until He is actually present with us in His return. In this memorial it looks back, in the Passover it looked forward. It is a memorial, a ceremony like baptism (which is another object ritual that the Roman Catholics apply to removing sin.
What Roman Catholicism teaches is not what the Bible teaches about communion. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to misunderstand Jesus’ spiritual teaching unless one follows the traditions of men and are misled.
Here is what Jesus has said John 3:13: "No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.” He is the bread that came down from heaven.
Paul later states Rom 10:6 But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'" (that is, to bring Christ down from above).”
Who? The Roman Catholic Priests, that’s who. No man can do either, but the Roman Catholic church disagrees; they have been doing it for hundreds and hundreds of years.
They are calling Jesus who is bodily at the right hand of God to spiritually incarnate in bread produced in a bakeries all over the world. He then is incarnated at the will of men when it took a virgin conception by the Holy Spirit to produce the real person that was without sin, who was fully human, and fully deity.
Did Jesus say He would return in bread and juice at men’s command? The angels said he would return the same way in Acts 1:11. “This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven."
Don’t overlook the context, the same Jesus (in his body); is being seen coming from heaven. He left in the same body he was born with, a resurrected glorified body and He will return in the same body from heaven.
Jesus warned of those who say he is here or there before the time. In Mark 13:21, “if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not.”
With this said, we must understand there is an anathema placed on all Christians who deny this doctrine and practice of the Roman church as others:
“If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force, let him be anathema. (Session XII, Canon I)