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What of those who claim they died (NDE) and went to heaven and returned

There are numerous stories, books and movies being produced of those who have visited heaven because they had died for a short time.  Some call these NDE near death experiences. Many claim to have a story of meeting God and his giving them a choice to stay or return to earth with a mission (which is not the gospel but something else, usually not related to the Bible. This experience is often based on good people go to heaven at death.

Sometimes descriptions of going to heaven in the Christian vernacular is not much different from the New Age movement’s practice of astral travel and their own personal stories of coming to a bright light and having a conversation. Most return with a new message and will almost always say Death is not to be feared for anyone. They speak of beautiful creatures, angels, Satan masks his lies by beautiful "experiences" to deceive them. From this experience there whole life changes.

Believers in Christ are not supposed to lie or perpetuate lies, but some do. Either by being deceived by an experience they cannot explain or seeing an opportunity to get money by a story they can use.  In fact the days we live in lies of the supernatural certainly outnumber the truth, so we should expect them. But it becomes offensive and insulting when one shares an experience that was not true about the most holy place the Bible calls heaven.

 The fact is everyone who claims to have died and gone to heaven should have their story scrutinized. As Christians we should be suspicious of someone having such an experience that was exclusive and unique to the Apostles (Paul and John). Somehow the church has been convinced that what happened to anyone in the Scripture can happen to us today. Even one going to heaven. John 1:18 says, “No one has seen God at any time.” Yet we have stories of people saying they did and go and describe him and the holy place in great detail.

God can bring people back from the dead, there are several examples in Scripture. The only way one can vacate the body and go to heaven is by death. Our cells when deprived of oxygen once we stop breathing begin to die, and rigor mortis sets in. That takes at least an hour. Resuscitation not a resurrection - If one does not have rigor mortis then they did not clinically die so then how did they get to heaven? What they experienced is something different, that they cannot explain.

People can be mistaken for dead, rare but does occur –medical tests and equipment don’t always verify this. Why waking up in a morgue isn’t quite as unusual as you’d think

Everyone is fascinated with what they have dubbed the afterlife; Christ promised to only believer’s “eternal life.”

In death, heaven is a place of rest for those who have fought in the arena of life by living out their faith by the Gospel. Heaven does not await good persons who die, in fact if you think you are a good person that deserves this rest you are already excluded; as it is antithetical to the gospel which saves you to go there.

The new trend is that people can die, go to heaven, and return alive with a new mission and message from heaven.  They are asked if they want to stay there or go back. Apparently everyone wants to come back to this garbage heap of a planet instead of stay in the perfect environment of heaven.  And there are many Christians who believe and endorse this.

The bible says 'it is appointed to man once to die' and after this the judgment (Hebrews 9:27) 

The Bible teaches only those who die immediately go to be with the Lord in heaven.  2 Cor. 5:7-10 “For we walk by faith, not by sight. We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.” V. 10“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”

Prior to this Paul writes 2 Cor. 5:6 “So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord.”

James says “the body without the spirit is dead” (Jms. 2:26). The spirit is what animates the body functions.

The most obvious problem, the bible which says in Eccl 8.8 says, “No one has power over the spirit to retain the spirit, And no one has power in the day of death.” So this idea that they have a choice granted by God is hardly a possibility. So we do not have a choice, it is God who gives and takes away live. (Hebrews 9:27) If one really dies, they go to either heaven or hell (not purgatory, not another dimension, nor another planet).

We do not have power over our own spirit in death. Death is proven when rigor mortis sets in. No one can say someone is dead because they appear dead. Many people have revived 10, 15 25 minutes later with no heartbeat.

Jms 2 the body without the Spirit is dead, death is a separation by the inner live that animated the body. When the spirit leaves (always accompanied with the soul, the person itself) the body dies. There is no life without the human Spirit. There is no eternal life in heaven without God’s Spirit.  

“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever” (Deuteronomy 29:29).

The Old Testament Scriptures say little about the soul after death, and the people of God were strictly forbidden to inquire further on their own.

God has not revealed more revelation than what He gave to the apostles in Scripture. We should be satisfied with the Bibles promise, unfortunately too many are enticed to hear of the unknown afterlife in speculative terms.

Much of this was popularized by Raymond Moody who wrote the book “life after life.” Also, Elizabeth Kubler Ross (1980’s) who did extensive research on after life experience and even had an encounter with a light herself and was healed of an ailment. As a New Age author and lecturer she taught the universal message that returning from death assures that "everyone goes to heaven".

She said "Death is simply a shedding of the physical body like the butterfly shedding its cocoon. It is a transition to a higher state of consciousness where you continue to perceive, to understand, to laugh, and to be able to grow."

The most common occurrences of what is identified as a near-death experience is encountering a light or some being of light. The gospel is never preached as a result of a NDE, nor to the person experiencing it? New Age hoopla and lies are the result because Satan is the producer of the light experience. And it can even be pleasant to insure one in their deception

 This being or light is said to emanate love and warmth. Those not affiliated with Christ will see this being of light was the Buddha, or Krishna, a leader of their religion or even an alien. Not knowing that the Bible teaches Satan in his original form is a being light, counterfeiting to deceive. This is done to people of ALL religions to keep them away from the truth, the Christ of the Bible who alone is the way to heaven, the Fathers home. The modern church along with the world has accepted this “heavenly tourism,” for those who daily go there this deception is even perpetrated on those who are Christians so they can introduce others to concepts that are not in the Bible.

new research  does point to us knowing we are dead when we die because our brains keep working  temporarily to make us aware of what's happening around us.

Those who have experienced bright lights and flashes and have 'come back' cannot be disregarded.

A new study suggests your consciousness continues functioning after your heart stops beating and your body movements fail.

You are temporally  'trapped' inside your dead body with your brain still functioning.

Survivors of cardiac arrest attest to their being aware of what was going on around them  hearing and seeing while they were pronounced mistakenly 'dead' by the doctors. They describe this after  being 'brought back to life'.

Dr. Sam Parnia is studying consciousness after death and examining cardiac arrest cases in Europe and the US. He says people in the first phase of death may still experience some form of consciousness.

He said: "They'll describe watching doctors and nurses working, they'll describe having awareness of full conversations, of visual things that were going on, that would otherwise not be known to them."

Explaining when a patient is officially declared dead, he said: "It's all based on the moment when the heart stops.

"Technically speaking, that's how you get the time of death."

His study is examining what happens to the brain after a person goes into cardiac arrest - and whether consciousness continues after death and for how long - to improve the quality of resuscitation and prevent brain injuries while restarting the heart.

There is apparently a short period of time when the blood in the brain keeps it functioning. The blood eventually settles, as the heart is no longer pumping it. Maybe this is an explanation of why so many people see similar things regardless of their beliefs.

But the real problem is with the many who claim to have come back. There are numerous stories, books and movies being produced of those who have visited heaven. The ABC show called Resurrection, has the background of people coming back, some more than twice. New shows are always produced on this subject because it fascinates everyone.

Heaven Is for Real movie is about a four year olds near death experience (which has non biblical events throughout). Another encounter was refuted: Business Insider report 'The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven' Now Says He Made The Whole Thing

In 2004, Alex Malarkey and his father, a Christian therapist, were in a bad car accident that left the 6-year-old boy paralyzed and in a coma for two months.  Alex Malarkey, a young boy who coauthored a book with his father first published in 2010. It describes what Alex experienced while he lay in a coma, going to heaven and returning to earth. It became a best-selling book.

On the book's Amazon page: "When Alex awoke from a coma two months later, he had an incredible story to share. Of events at the accident scene and in the hospital while he was unconscious. Of the angels who took him through the gates of Heaven itself. And, most amazing of all ... of meeting and talking with Jesus."

Alex at 16,wrote an open letter to Christian publishers retracting his story. Saying he made the whole thing up.  Posted on the Pulpit and Pen Web site, Alex states: “I did not die. I did not go to Heaven.”

Some even think that anyone can get to go to heaven, some believe you can on numerous trips, not just when you die and are sent back but can go anytime they desire, numerous people have spoken this: Dinakarin, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley, Jesse Duplantis who said he went to heaven numerous times without dying.   Mary Baxter first went to hell and wrote her divine revelation and then went to heaven.

 Katt Kerr describes the details of her heavenly fantasy “I can see little spirits flowing in and out of the Glory that comes from His being. They are all saying the same thing. "Send me, please send me". They do not yet have a real body so they cannot exist outside the Father. Once He sends them to earth and they are placed in a womb at the time of conception; they become a living human being! (Revealing Heaven By Kat Kerr Volume 2 (Part 10) Chapt. 7 Stones Of Fire - the Ancient Paths)

This is nearly word for word to what Jesse Dupantis (another deceiver) said years before Kat Kerr. In Kerr’s Interview with Patricia King she refers to Ps.139, before he put you in the womb. People ask where was I before I came here? I had to be somewhere. We were all little spiritual beings God had already had the gifts inside us, we lived in God. This is connected to William Branham who had an ungodly angel he called Jesus stand by and hive him revelation. These are the false teachings that come from these experiences.

John, who was the last living apostle was allowed to write his vision as he relayed the future for all the believers to read throughout the centuries. He gave to us the revelation of Jesus Christ which brought the Bible to its conclusion, closing the canon on what God would reveal to man of the future. There are no others that went to heaven (no young children, no adults). From these two apostles we have all the insight we need to have faith of what is waiting for us as pilgrim believers on earth. There is no one else’s word we can trust on this except God’s.





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