An Open heaven - opening up oneself to a strong delusion
We have seen these revivals over the last 25 plus years. It is more accurate to say it is revivalism – meaning, it hypes people up to think something spiritual is actually taking place when it is false doctrine and practices being introduced for them to believe and live by.
We have seen the rise of the seeker friendly models, the soft social gospel of Rick Warren added to the mix, the music revivalism of Hillsong. All the mystical movements have continued to increase as fires over the landscape of Christian churches have become a large blaze.
Now over the last many years it is Bethel under Bill Johnson spearheading a mystical Christianity. He is a man who has less than 0% discernment (in fact they change the meaning of discernment to be “changing the atmosphere.” Bethel has become the sweet spot for every trend tried and some new ones. It is the new Hybrid model for the church, combining new age practices (which they say were once Christian and they are now redeeming them) one of them is yoga.
These revivalists are fooling the whole Christian world with their synergism of new age with Christianity using occasional Bible words. It’s time we stand up for the word of God who is Jesus, Its time for the church to be what it was intended to be and not be changed by new age change agents touting their Gnosticism and Mysticism.
This is no longer a subtle change but bold and audacious one, and it has gone on far too long through the various false revivals. Only to find a more permanent home at Bethel among the naïve ungrounded youth that are inclined to feel more than to think biblically.
When you hear Jenn Johnson say the Holy Spirit to her is like the Blue Genie of Aladdin, he’s fun, sneaky, silly; (on at least 3 occasions) when He is holy there is something seriously wrong with both her and with the pastor, bringing no correction to his own daughter in law saying this.
What about the crazy talk of body parts in a heavenly room that we can claim them. A storeroom of body parts for replacements… for us on earth! Just reach up and grab one. Bill Johnson tells this as if this vision and later experience is true. Think about it. “Years ago, one of our students had an encounter with the Lord. It was really quite bizarre. In heaven she actually saw this room with spare body parts. You say, “Well that doesn’t exist in heaven.” I don’t know. I haven’t seen it. But she did. And she was with Chris ministering down in Santa Rosa, I think it was. And a gal came up that was in a head-on collision, had really messed up her legs. Used to be a dancer and had very little function…. four or five maybe six people have seen the same thing. And since then we have been saying creative miracles. So this girl comes up to her talking about her accident and shew need a miracle and (people are whooing) she says, “I don’t even have a kneecap.” Well, the gal who’d seen the spare parts room in heaven says, “Well, I’ll get one for you.” That’s like, that’s got to be like the ultimate response ever! “Well, I’ll get one for you.” She reaches her arm like this, she brings it down, lays hands on the knees and within fifteen minutes, she has a new knee cap.” (Bill Johnson - You Are A Gate Of Heaven - part 2)
Roberts Lairdon claims that he toured heaven when he was 8 years old and saw this room. Robin Harfouche claims she went to heaven and saw it, so doesKat Kerr teach that Heaven has a warehouse for body parts. Patricia King “Did you know that there is a "body parts" room in heaven!” The Lord told the Apostle Guillermo Maldonado: "I want you to release angels, and when you release these angels they will bring body parts."
They all copy each others false revelation. Is there anyone who is in their right mind, a Christ centered mind as the Bible teaches that went to heaven? If flesh and blood cannot enter heaven how is it flesh and blood can leave heaven?
We are told to access this room through faith and release new parts to the sick and infirmed. Where does the Bible speak on this. No need, to confirm it when we are running on new revelation. They think the Bible should not be used for their experiences.
Kim Walker-Smith a worship pastor for Bethel Church in Redding and worship leader for the Jesus Culture Band has a vision that would more akin to a hallucinogenic trip, it certainly was not God from the Bible no matter how passionate she is in conveying it.
“I’m just sitting and reading the Bible. And all—I—I have my—my back to the door; and all the sudden I feel the presence of the Lord literally walk into the room. … I—I suddenly felt this—almost like a—the fear of the Lord. This—this trembling inside of me. And I can feel Him walking towards me, close to me; and I suddenly had this revelation: He has come for that question. (audience laughs).
…And I feel Him just come right up to me. His presence is so strong I can’t even turn. I’m just sitting there like this; and just—my heart is pounding and I feel him saying, “Kim, please, ask me that question.” And I’m like, “Ooh, hello Jesus. Good morning. I’m great. I don’t need to ask that question, I’m doing so good. Have You seen how good I’m doing, lately?” The nervous laugh. And, Jesus is like, “Please, please, ask Me that question.”
“Ah, you know, I’m good. I’m good, Jesus. … And I feel Him again, “Please, please ask me that question.” And again, He was completely irresistible. And I fall on the floor; I start sobbing—like I do in His presence—and I finally say to Him, “Jesus, what were You thinking when You created me?” And suddenly; I’m standing with Jesus. And just in front of me is God the Father and He’s got a table in front of Him; and He reaches into His heart and He rips this chunk off of His heart, and He throws it on the table.
And it’s suddenly, like, clay or Play-Doh. And He starts molding it and shaping it, and I’m like, “Jesus, what is He doing? What’s He making? What is He making?” And all of the sudden I see—He makes me! I’m there—on the table. And He reaches over; and He grabs this box and brings it over, and He sets me inside the box. And, you know those little jewelry boxes that little girls have; where you open it up and it plays music, and the little ballerina, like, twirls? Hello? Do you know what I’m talking about? (laughs) No? …
… it was a box like that. And He shuts the box; and He gets in front of it. And He’s like really excited. Kinda’ looks around, and He opens the box, real fast like that! And when He does, inside, I start twirling, and dancing, and singing to Him and worshipping Him. And He goes, “Woohoo! Woooo!” He, like, runs around—He runs around and He comes back, and He closes the box, And He’s like, And He throws it open again and He’s like, “Woohoo!” And He starts running around in circles again, and He comes back over, and He closes it again.
…I mean this is going on, and on, and on, and on; and it’s so crazy! He’d get so excited every single time. … It’s like—it’s like He was so surprised, and so happy, every single time. And I’m—I’m standing with Jesus watching this going “What is happening? What is—what is this? Why—why is He so happy?” And all the sudden, He reaches in the box, and He picks me up. And He puts me in the palm of His hand; and I go, from being there—watching with Jesus—to being in the palm of the Father’s hand. And, He’s bringing me close to Him; like this. And I’m watching like, “What’s happening? What’s going on?” I’m getting, like, closer and closer. And all the sudden I see His heart; and I see this outline in His heart. It was that spot where He’d ripped that chunk off of His heart. And, as I’m getting closer and closer—all the sudden—He just slides me right into that spot; and I fit like a perfect puzzle piece. It was, like, a perfect fit. And as I’m sitting there—in His heart—He just says to me, “Kim, this is what I was thinking when I created you. I created you from this place, right here. I knew exactly what I was doing. You are not a mistake. You are, made perfectly how I imagined and designed. I made you simply because you make me happy. You bring me joy. And guess what? You—I think you’re funny. You make me laugh.”
… “This is the place where I created you from; and this is the place where I have brought you back, and this is the place where you stay. Right here, in My heart, in My presence.” And all of the lies just dissipated like that; they melted away. All the lies were—were just completely gone. And in one moment, my entire life changed. I could never be the same after that.” (audience applauds).
All the lies are not gone, this is a lying vision and Bethel is filled with them. We have only covered a few. To believe Jesus is begging her to ask him this certain question and brings her to heaven where she sees God the Father (which the bible says no man can see). God rips a piece out of himself and forms it into her right on the spot and then gets entertained but putting her in a music box and continues to open it to see her dancing. Saying “Woohoo! And He starts running around in circles.” And she is transferred into the Fathers hand, where he then he puts her into the missing portion of his heart where he says I created you from and commends her.
Really? I mean Really?! This is her view of God by going to Bethel church. Contrary to this, holy men who went to heaven fell down as dead (John) and could not convey what they saw for it was illegal (Paul). John later was allowed so we would have it written to know what is genuine.
She is correct, No one could ever be the same after a vision like that. While one may question if this vision was real or her imagination, neither one can be associated with it being genuine, truthful or of God. But this open heaven teaching is catching on and many are believing it. In one sense we could say why wait to go to heaven when we can go now. Which is what Bob Jones has said when he taught at Bethel, “I want you to go up and meet him…I want you to be raptured… you can do this as often as you choose… you want a visitation, he does too only he sat down, he wants to turn this whole thing over to you.” (Piercing the Darkness conference hosted at Bethel Redding)
We do not have to be concerned with atheists skepticism or the cults teaching error when we have so much unbiblical nonsense coming from krazies that is accepted by so many. Kim Walker is a famous worship leader who is misLEADING people because she has been misled.
This has got to stop or this fire they claim is from heaven (from the fallen cherub) will burn up all of what’s left in the church that is accurate.
Bethel tells us a new sound, a new Pentecost is coming “right now there is a wind of change that is blowing. You can go in any forest in the world and you will find that it will not sound the same as it did yesterday. Maybe only one limb fell. But it has a different sound today because the wind blowing across through the trees is what makes the sound.” (Becoming part of the Second sound Ray Hughes October 2, 2010 Morning Session U. S. National Conference – San Jose, California Womens aglow)
Whenever there is a fire and there is wind it is deadly combination.
For all of you on the net that are discerning, keep on discerning. Don’t let anyone intimidate or stop you doing this biblical command. Keeping growing in the truth that will train you to be sensitive to error. Don’t become discouraged from those who are pastors or in ministry for a long time who tell you how to do it their way. More importantly, pray that the true God would move and rescue these deluded people.
You wonder why there are so few Biblical churches left? There are so many trying to copy the newest trend. This is going to end badly for the youth involved, when they realize that they were misled by a Christianity that had a mixture of Gnosticism, mysticism they will not want to have anything to do with Christianity, or they will either continue in their deception and it will become far worse.