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False teachers copying the words from other false teachers p2.
On Jesus going to hell Copeland He [Jesus] allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell....He allowed Himself to come under Satan's control...every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him....They tortured Him beyond anything anybody had ever conceived. For three days He suffered everything there is to suffer. (The Price of It All, p.3) Jesus "had to give up His righteousness" (Kenneth Copeland, The Incarnation, side 2.) Jesus had to "accept the sin nature of Satan." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2.) "Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of hell" (Kenneth Copeland, Holy Bible: Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition (Kenneth Copeland, Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1991), 129.) Kenneth Copeland : "I can't understand Christians that refuse to believe that Jesus went to hell. I want to tell you something if he didn't go, you're going to have to." (The Christian Channel Europe "Believer's Voice of Victory" [May 1998) “That Word of the living God went down into that pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life....Jesus was born again -- the firstborn from the dead the Word calls Him -- and He whipped the devil in his own backyard.” (The Price of It All, p4-6.) “Jesus was dragged down into the bowels of Hell where He was beaten and bruised by Satan and his demons until Jesus could finally fight His way out of Hell 3 days later. (Classic Redemption, p.13) and (Believer's Voice of Victory, September 11, 1991) "Jesus was reborn in the pits of hell." (What Happened From the Cross to the Throne, Tape #00-0303) Joyce Meyer “During that time He entered hell, where you and I deserved to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there” (The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make p.35) Kenneth Hagin “Jesus died as our substitute. He who knew no sin was made to be sin. He took upon himself our sin nature. And he died- he was separated and cut off from God. He went down into the prison house of suffering in our place. He was there for three days and nights.” (Made Alive” the word of faith Apr.15, 1982) This has become standard in the word faith movement which first came from E. W. Kenyon, “Satan took Jesus spirit with him down to the pit of hell where Jesus during three terrible days and nights suffered the tortures of hell.” (Lie, E. W. Kenyon, 43)
The Bible says that it was the physical death of Jesus that atoned for our sins, by his pure and precious BLOOD. (Romans 3:25; Romans 9:5; Acts 20:28; Matt. 26:28; 1 Peter 1:18-19; Rev. 1:5) Word faith teachers say it is not the physical death, that it was insufficient and incomplete, Jesus had to go to hell for 3 days William Branham “He had to send Him to hell condemned (See?), because He took our sins. And Christ died, not righteous; Christ died a sinner. See? Christ never sinned Himself, but He took our sins on Him.” (55-0227A, The Position Of A Believer In Christ, Shriner Temple, Phoenix, AZ) “and died there as a sinner on the cross, and His soul descended into hell.” (54-0512, The Seven Church Ages, Branham Tabernacle, Jeffersonville, IN) “He died a sinner, knowing no sin, yet our sin was on Him. And God, for His sins, sent Him to hell.” (53-0609A, Demonology, Religious Realm, Roberts Park Amphitheater, Connersville, IN) Branham: “When He died at the cross and His soul, not God's Spirit, but His soul went to hell, 'cause He had to ... The Bible said He would.” (54-1219M, Divine Healing, Branham Tabernacle, Jeffersonville, IN) “And when He died, His soul went to hell, because it had the sins of the world upon it. And He was in hell three days.” (59-1124, Balm In Gilead, Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, San Jose, Ca) Branham had some fantasy stories of what went on in hell "Satan," said Jesus, "give Me the key of death and hell. You don't possess them." "Oh, yes I do. I possess them, because back yonder in the garden of Eden, Adam sinned. But He said, "I'm the virgin born Son of God." I come down from the Father's bosom. I've just died yonder on Calvary, and My Blood's still dripping from the cross. I come down to take over." That's right. You ain't scaring nobody from this on. You was a bluff one time. You had Him, but you haven't got Him any more. I'm the possessor. That's right. I'll give My church the keys to the Kingdom. Reached over on his side, pulled the keys off of him, smacked him in the face, and sent him back, and shut the door so hard it shook the pegs of hell in his eyes. Hallelujah.” (54-0811, Show Us The Father, Shriner Temple, Los Angeles, CA) FAITH as a Force Kenneth Hagin “Faith is a Force (Spirit, Soul and Body, #01-0601, Tape #1) “The force of faith was controlling His (Jesus') ministry. (The Force of Faith, p9) “Faith is a power force, a tangible force. It is a conductive force.” (The Force of Faith, 1989, p10) “Faith is a spiritual force....It is substance. Faith has the ability to effect natural substance.” (Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 1982, p8) Kenneth Copeland "God used words when He created the heaven and the earth....Each time God spoke, He released His faith -- the creative power to bring His words to pass." (The Power of the Tongue (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1980), 4.) “Faith is God's source of power (Freedom From Fear, 1983. p12.) “Faith was the raw material substance that the Spirit of God used to form the universe.”(Authority of the Believer II (1987, audiotape #01-0302, side 1.) Contrary to the faith teaching God’s source of power is who he is, not him believing something to produce things. “God cannot do anything for you apart or separate from faith. Faith is God's source of power." ("Freedom from Fear," KCM, 1980, pg. 11-12) “God spoke Adam into existence in authority with words. These words struck Adam's body in the face. His body and God were exactly the same size." (Holy Bible, Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition 1991, p. 45) The Bible defines Faith as trust in someone greater. We trust in God and his Word, there is none greater. So whom did God trust in? This made up concept of God having faith is absurd. God did not have to speak, in fact he didn’t for Adam to be made, he formed him and they breathed onto the formed dirt to give him life. Creflo Dollar also speaks what Copeland spoke: “Now, God used faith substance to make everything that He made….in every one of those words they were filled with faith substance, because words are nothing but containers….Every time God speaks, He can’t help but to speak words that are filled with faith….God’s guts are called faith stuff….Everything in Him is faith….What’s in His heart is faith…if you were to cut God open you’d see nothing but faith. Every time He opens His mouth now, He automatically fills those words with His faith material” (Creflo Dollar, “The Just Shall Live By Faith,” Changing Your World, Trinity Broadcasting Network, September 20, 1998). William Branham And we have faith in our heart, the faith of God in our heart, and can see it clear. It becomes a faith, and then we speak it, and it comes into existence.” (54-1006, Law Or Grace, Branham Tabernacle) Branham, “This world was made by faith. God spoke the world into existence. This very world that we're setting on right tonight, is nothing else but the Word of God materialized. If it didn't, where did He get the material to make it out of? He said, "Let there be..." And there was.” (53-1103, Taking God At His Word, Sports Center, Owensboro, KY) “If you’re the Son of God, you’re like God. He just speaks the Word and it creates itself. His Word’s the creative power. How’d the world come here? He made it out of things which was not. He just said, “Let there be,” and here it is. He believed His own Word.”(56-0722 All Things Are Possible to Him That Believeth) Speaking things into existence K Hagin: “Believe it in your heart; say it with your mouth. That is the principle of faith. You can have what you say” (You can have what you say Faith library 1979 p.140) “God did not create the world out of nothing, He used the Force of His Faith.” (Spirit, Soul and Body, #01-0601, Tape #1) William Branham was speaking word faith long before Mr. Hagin, in fact Hagin copied him as did Copeland. Creflo Dollar “So when God made man. All He did was take a reflection of Himself. …, the Hebrew translation here “God made another speaking spirit”. The actual meaning there “He made another speaking spirit”. Study it for yourself now. … Well, would it be correct, if we’re talking about making man out of His image, if we’re talking about a reflection of God then God is a spirit and we know He speaks. So He said let Us make another speaking spirit.(Our Equality with God through righteousness 1/21/2001) William M. Branham “Man in the beginning, when he was made, a man is a god. He's absolutely a god, for he was made in the image of God, being a son of God, and then he's an heir of all that God is. … He could just speak, and everything obeyed him, because he was a--a god within himself: not universal God, but I mean the God of heavens and earth; but he was a--a ruler o--or in his domain.” (60-1218, The Uncertain Sound, Branham Tabernacle) This godship of man produced dominion over all things “Every place the soles of your foot can set upon by faith, God gives it to you. Amen. It's yours; you possess it, if you can find the key to this law of faith that opens it to you.” (61-0723M, The Ever-Present Water From The Rock, Branham Tabernacle) “with the right mental attitude, speaking the right words, believing the right things.” (51-1003, Believest Thou This?, Unknown, New York, NY) “God had us in His thinking, then we have Eternal Life, 'cause then He spoke us, and we come into existence.” (64-1205, The Identified Masterpiece Of God, Stardust Motel, Yuma, AZ) Teaching we were alive before we came to earth. “The right mental attitude towards any Divine promise of God, will bring it to pass. …. But it's up to you, it's to each individual” (53-1109, Africa Trip Report, National Guard Armory, Owensboro, KY) “you just take the right mental attitude towards any Divine promise, watch it materialize.”(53-1213M, What Think Ye Of Christ?, Philadelphia Church, Chicago, IL) 'Say what you will.' Just say it, and your words will materialize. Say to this mountain, and it'll do just as you say." (59-1115, My New Ministry, Branham Tabernacle) “Remember this, and never forget it. The right mental attitude towards any promise of God will bring it to pass, the right mental attitude towards any promise of God.” (50-0405, Expectation, Glad Tidings Tabernacle, New York, NY) “The first time that the Name of Jesus Christ was spoke through mortal lips, caused a dead baby in his mother's womb to come to life and received the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Hallelujah. If It'll do that to a dead baby, what ought It to do to a borned again Church?” (52-0727, Led By The Holy Spirit, Grace Missionary Church, Zion, IL) He was the Word. Before a word it's a thought, and a thought has to be created. All right, so God's thoughts became creation when it was spoke by a word.” (The Revelation of the Seven Seals, p.242). Hagin, Copeland, Hinn Dollar and nearly every one of those involved in the Word/Faith Movement are all saying basically the same thing. Why? Because they are coming from the same source, word faith is an extension of the Latter Rain teachings, i.e. the manifests sons of God teaching. It may not be called this by all its practitioners yet speaking to manifest by faith (identified as mentalism) is also what Branham taught and practiced as did Kenyon. All of E. W. Kenyon’s books were available for Branham to read as well as those who were an influence on his views. For example Bosworth who was involved with Branham wrote in his 1930 booklet "The Christian Confession", which was condensed into a chapter of the 1948 edition of "Christ the Healer." At the end of the chapter titled, “Our Confession,” Bosworth wrote: “Most of the thoughts expressed in this sermon I have brought together, by permission, from the writings of Rev. E. W. Kenyon.” He recommended Kenyon's books at the end of the chapter. Jesus is not the only Son Kenneth Copeland "Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God... Jesus is known as the first begotten from the dead. If there is a firstborn, then there has to be a secondborn, a thirdborn, a fourthborn , etc." (Copeland: "Now Are We in Christ Jesus", p.24, Kenneth Copeland Publications, Texas. 1980,) Larry Huch and Paula White discussing Jesus as the high priest, and that we have a priestly anointing also teach “Jesus is not the only begotten son of God, he is not, I’m a son of God, White interjects he is the firstfruits (which refers to be first human to be resurrected to eternal life) Huch he is the firstfruit, the firstborn of many. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyLPUnXV2_U) William Branham “See, there cannot be an Eternal son, because a son had to have a beginning. And so Jesus had a beginning, God had no beginning.” (Conduct, Order, Doctrine of the Church, p.273; October 2, 1957). Therefore, Jesus is not God in the flesh! Branham said “He was the first Son of God to come to full maturity.” (65-0418M) “He was a manifested Son of God. That's what we're to be one of these days.” (61-0416) “God in you, like He was in Jesus Christ.” (63-1110E, He That Is In You, Branham Tabernacle) “before Jesus comes again, the full manifestation of the person of Jesus Christ is to be manifested in flesh.” (65-1206) Jesus is not God Kenneth Copeland "What [why] does God have to pay the price for this thing? He has to have a man that is like that first one. It’s got to be a man. He’s got to be all man. He cannot be a God and come storming in here will attributes and dignities that are not common to man. He can’t do that. It’s not legal." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017.)
“The Spirit of God spoke to me, and He said Son, realize this Now follow me in this, don't let your tradition trip you up. He said Think this way. A twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain. And I threw my Bible... I said What? He said A born-again man defeated Satan - the first-born of many brethren defeated him. He said You are the very image, and the very copy of that one. I said Goodness Gracious, saints alive. I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said Well you don? mean - You couldn't dare mean that I could have done the same thing? He said Oh yeah. If you'd had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did you could've done the same thing cause you're a re-born man too. (Substitution and Identification 1989, audio tape #00-0202, side 2) Notice it is God saying this to him. We know this was not God speaking but a false spirit. How? Because it says if you had the same knowledge you could have defeated Satan, in hell. The Scripture says Satan was defeated on the cross, so this cannot God speaking. Besides, only God can defeat Satan in the way the Bible describes. The implication: we just need this knowledge and we can do all that he did. Copeland denies Jesus is the only Christ, God in the flesh but that we are all that He is. This was exactly what the Gnostics taught in the early church and this is what is being taught today by the word faith teachers. This is heresy but few have the compunction to call it this, in fact few recognize it as such. William Branham "Listen, the Word. How many believes that in the beginning was the Word? That's, first it was a thought. And it has to be a thought; then, when it's expressed, it becomes a word. And then, "In the beginning was the Word.” (62-0609E, Letting Off The Pressure, Bible Tabernacle, Southern Pines, NC). “What is a word? A "word" is "a thought expressed." So then as long as it was a thought, it wasn't materialized.” (56-0427, Faith, Abundant Life Center, Charlotte, IN). “The Word” does not come into being until it is a thought according to Branham. He is using this to explain Jesus coming into existence. “A word is thought expressed. In the beginning He wasn’t even God.” (The Mighty God unveiled Before us p.11) None of these quotes are conducive to the Bible and Christianity. What Branham said is copied by many more than Copeland, Hagin, Creflo Dollar. The whole word faith movement copied his heresies, and he copied many of them from Finis Dake, from Kenyon and others unbiblical teachings. If the root of a tree is bad, the fruit will be also. If you are learning from these men you are ingesting bad fruit and it leads you away from accurate knowledge of the Word not toward it.
Excerpts from PDF book on William Branham - A Man and His angel
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