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Kat Kerr’s Heaven: believe it or not p.2
Kerr has some very strange additions to the Bible. For example in one room in heaven where you use faith to open the door. There is a screen where she watched the creation of Genesis. She tells us that between verse 1 and 2 of Genesis 1, millions of years transpired and she watched how the dinosaurs roamed and the ice age came to be part of an earlier creation. At that time the sky was peach color, not blue.
“He took some of those angels that were under Melchizedek, these angels that had flesh on their body, put them on the original earth,” and they watched over the Dinosaurs (Jubilee Church #256) Kat Kerr - God Left “Watcher Angels” Part One)Millions of years passed, Satan was kicked out of the celestial realm never to return.
The Lord broke the water canopy and the ice age killed off the dinosaurs. God formed the ice age to stop Lucifer's take over. Millions of years later … “God leans over and blows on it and melts it, and there is verse two (#259) Kat Kerr - God Left “Watcher Angels” Part Four). Then the waters covered the earth.According to the Bible Dinosaurs were created on day 4, the Bible does not say anything like she is teaching. She is speaking what God has not. In the “countryside” referred to as the park in heaven “is where you can see every species of animal ever created; including the dinosaurs” (p.6 Revealing Heaven). Pets that you love are in heaven (our guardian angel carries them). From pet fish to alligators and pigs. (Pets are there but the people we love that a have not become believers are not there?)
Kerr holds to the Doctrine of Pre- Existence because of her heavenly trip experiences. Quoting Jeremiah 1:4-5 (like Branham and she is just as wrong). It does not mean Jeremiah existed before his birth, it means that God foreknew him. Kerr says humans had a pre-existence before birth, and were small spirits within God. She sees little orbs that are spirits before they are born circling around the throne asking to be sent down to the earth. These spirits are incarnated at birth, and the plan is to have people born on earth, so that they can go home to heaven. New Age teaching: yes; copying Jesse Duplantis again, yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKdH4RbSlJ0Kerr describes the details of her heavenly fantasy “I can see little spirits flowing in and out of the Glory that comes from His being. They are all saying the same thing. "Send me, please send me". They do not yet have a real body so they cannot exist outside the Father. Once He sends them to earth and they are placed in a womb at the time of conception; they become a living human being! (Revealing Heaven By Kat Kerr Volume 2 (Part 10) Chapt 7 Stones Of Fire - the Ancient Paths)
This is nearly word for word to what Dupantis said years before Kerr. In her Interview with Patricia King she refers to Ps.139, before he put you in the womb. People ask where was I before I came here? I had to be somewhere. We were all little spiritual beings God had already had the gifts inside us, we lived in God. She says “He sent us to earth to have a family” this family sounds like Reverend Moon's revelation message.
About God, we are told “he created the earth to have a family,” how does this make sense when she teaches the Dinosaurs were first before man by millions of years according to her heaven experience.
When the Bible speaks of the Ancient paths, it is where everyone played before they came to earth, “inside the father” - “is eternity.”
If we were to look inside God, there is eternity. “He is the eternal God and inside of Him is eternity. It is in that beautiful place inside God that we all came from before being sent to earth.” (Chapter Seven Stones Of Fire - the Ancient Paths)“Before earth we lived inside God, your spirit is made of light. “I live in the same place in you that you would live in me.” This sounds very similar to Gnosticism.
“Psalms 139 states: He knew us before we began to breathe and He wrote every day of our life before we were born. Also in Jeremiah 1:5 it says, He knew us before he formed us in our mother's womb. The Word also says He is our Father and we are His offspring, in other words 'we came from Him'. In Acts 17:28 it states... In Him we move, we lived, we had our 'being' or existence and that prophets of old spoke of this, we are His offspring. God is also called 'the Father of spirits' (Hebrews 12:9, KJV); the spirits would be you and me before we were born into this earth.” (Revealing Heaven By Kat Kerr Volume 2 (Part 10) Chapter Seven Stones Of Fire - the Ancient Paths)
Ps. 139 does not mean we existed in him, anymore than when David said in v.7 'Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?” to mean he could go anywhere in the universe.
The fact that she distorted this scripture to prove her point shows us that her revelation is not God given.
Ps 139:16 “Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, the days fashioned for me, when as yet there were none of them.” In other words God can see the future before any of the parts animate or inanimate are created. He sees the end from the beginning.
We did not come FROM God, from inside him. But as God created ex nihilo, he created things from nothing, they had no existence prior.
The father of spirits means he is the originator of our life and we should revere him, not that we came from his person. Heb. 12:9 “Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?”
Lucifer once walked inside God’s heart, amongst the ‘stones of fire’; these stones are inside God.
She explains, Lucifer walked inside him, that he created music, the other angels could not. He had access to inside God, the other angel’s worshiped God as Lucifer was making the music.“Lucifer did resemble the Father because of the gemstones! He fell because he had access to go in and out whenever it pleased him, he became puffed up because of his beauty and his ability to create like God. It destroyed his chance of living in eternity with the Father and since he was a 'created' being, he could never repent from that sin! (Book)
“when Lucifer said he would himself above the stars, above God “I will be on his holy mount I will be over his people… guess who he saw inside God, us. He saw us. There were no people in heaven when he said that, god din’t call the angels people. ..he knew what was inside God, the arch angels had access to step inside God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The other angels could not just step inside God.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll8qaEZsGfU#t=118Lucifer, “He was kicked out of Heaven on a lightning bolt
from God Himself” (Question and answers: #256) Kat Kerr - God Left “Watcher
Angels” Part One)
Now that Lucifer is kicked out of heaven he has no access inside God. He wants
to rule over the spirits inside God (that will become human), she uses Isa
14:13-14 “For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will
exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the
congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of
the clouds; I will be like the most High.”
Lucifer is NOT a lone cherub, there are other cherubs and there is no explanation in the Bible of any of this.
Much of what is said on this sounds like MORMONISM as she describes “God has arms and legs or we wouldn’t have them.”
Babies and children in heaven
“There are nurseries where angels who care for the millions of aborted and miscarried babies. “they even slide down real rainbows? “little babies playing together with the bunnies, turtles and butterflies” The deer come and give them rides as do the kangaroos; they also ride on the turtles in the pond or swim with the goldfish under water.”
“When it is time to return to the nurseries, dragonflies are sent to deliver the message. … They would land on the little baby's hands and announce that it was time to return to the nurseries because Jesus was coming”
“There are testimonies of people being taken to Heaven and allowed to see their children. Most of the time, they looked exactly the same age as when they passed on to Heaven. If you lost a baby, that baby will be exactly the age you want it to be when you arrive yourself.”
No testimonies like this are from the Bible, or the apostles. But she even contradicts herself, saying they will be the same age when they died, or, they can be any age YOU want them to be. Who decides this?
She states, “Learn how, because of the grace of God, you get a ‘second’ chance to raise your baby in Heaven.”
Kerr says, “We are all his children” (Interview with Patricia King) This is untrue. What she is teaching is universalism, which is right out of the new age handbook. If we are all his children like Kerr says, then why are we sent on earth? To believe in Jesus? Then some become forsaken children because they do not believe? What’s the purpose of being born again if we all came from inside God?
The Bible has something very different to say on this: John 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God.” Only those who receive Jesus BY THE GOSPEL become children of God. V.13 “who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” It means those who have a new spiritual birth because they were sinful, only those ware accepted as his children and are part of His family. So if God sends these spirits to earth (all his children) to have them back in heaven, the majority are missing.
It is Mormons, Hindus, new agers that believe we preexist, Christians do not.
“It was those angels who had the flesh on their body, later on, during Noah’s time on the earth, there was still some on the earth, some of them chose to become a ‘god’; to the Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians. That’s how those civilizations became great. That’s how they produced the offspring. Because God made them and put them on the earth. And this is what He said: “You have boundaries”… These angels were given boundaries. “You can come to the earth to help educate the people… Educate the people about Me...” Just educate them in general, so they would have some smarts. #259) Kat Kerr - God Left “Watcher Angels” Part Four)
Now we know she is making things up, as these civilizations mentioned came long after the flood, but the real flaw is that God approved of the Nephillim (meaning fallen ones), this action brought the flood as judgment from God.
Other questions for Kerr's teaching. Why is it no one remembers their life previously? Does God give us amnesia (as those who teach reincarnation). If everything in heaven is perfect then we go from being perfect spiritually to being sinful spiritually as humans. Why does the bible say we are “by nature children of wrath” (Eph. 2:3). Why does Paul who actually went to heaven and kept quiet, write,
Rom 3:10 As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
v.11 There is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God.”
v.12 ... there is none who does good, no, not one."
This is a form of universalism she is presenting to the church as if from God.
She writes “the spirit realm can see everything in our physical world.” Her insight - the fathers revelation. That through a portal you can watch your family. All you do is think about someone and God lets you see it from the portal on a balcony in a certain building.
A portal for everyone to see their loved ones.
Besides the ‘Throne Room’, you will
see the ‘Portal’ where those living in the celestial city go to view their families on earth.” “they lean over the balcony and declare God’s will over our lives” Her dead relatives are in heaven, watching us down on earth viewing from a balcony. She says that we should say hello to these relatives because they are looking down from heaven.This subtly promotes contact with those who have died (which is forbidden in the Bible).
It is mentioned in the bible in Hebrews 12:1, where it talks about the great cloud of witnesses.‟ Remember now, we are always being watched!
” (p.24)Don’t you think they may have something better to do in heaven than use their time observing us? Again the Bible does not teach what she is saying is from God.
Heb. 11:39- “And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.”
12.1:Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses”
The word “Surrounded” #5105 toigaroun- wherefore then, for which reason, therefore, consequently. It does not mean seeing us from heaven.
Hebrews 12:1 Cloud of witnesses nefos (NT:3467) marturoon …The martures (NT:3101) here are not mere spectators [theatai], but testifiers (witnesses) who testify from their own experience (Hebrews 11:2,4-5,33,39) to God's fulfilling his promises as shown in Hebrews 11.(from Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament)
It means those who went before us in time, not that they can see us from heaven by a portal (which previously meant getting to heaven not seeing from heaven)
Hebrews 12:1 "Witnesses" does not mean "spectators," but those who have borne witness to the truth, as Hebrews 11 already explained. Christians are contender’s in a race, the heroes of faith have witnessed to the truth, preceding us, and have entered their heavenly rest.
Not only does Kerr teach we can see people on earth from heaven but Kerr claims she was transported back to the resurrection scene (like William Branham and Anna Mendez). She saw the empty tomb and Mary, she saw Jesus appear, and Mary runs over and Jesus says not to cling to him. Then Jesus ascends to the third heaven and Kat goes up with him. There she sees some sort of ritual of an angel carrying Jesus’ blood in something, Jesus pours out his blood into some type of skillet, which makes a fizzing sound, and all these various sins are shown as words, like homosexuality, etc. as they go away. (point 10. as described on Christian forums website)
If one has not noticed, much of this has to do with
the counterfeit spirit in the third wave/ latter rain churches,like gold dust falling. Kerr holds up large fake gemstones in her meetings and talks about the gem stones that are in the vest of the high priest have fallen in churches all over the world for the last several years, are coming from the heart of God. Gems are dropping because they represent the love of the fathers heart.
Kat Kerr is one of many new revelators that have a false humility, they are actually exalting themselves as the chosen one’s with God’s NEW message.
What is taking place with those who go to heaven and come back with testimonies that are not in the Bible.
A fresh revelation is released to believe in; your present doctrine is adjusted. A new vision is developed and you walk in it. This develops a new identity within you. This is standard diaprax in operation, the new replacing the old. The old being the doctrine of the Bible, of which many new age prophets have said will go by the wayside as the church is led by new light bearers; New Age teachers.
The fact is one can hardly find anything correct in what she says, its all distorted by latter rain doctrine and is waaay off. For example on her video she says “His power his glory is pouring into this city and make this a region of light. A fullness of time is coming we are already in a new season earth, the days of greater glory are being manifested here (in Reno Nevada) in this region and all over the earth.” This sounds like every other false prophecy in the prophetic camp. The same words are used over and over for different situations.
The Lord will always show if someone is deceived or lying but its up to each of us to decide. But you cannot decide from your feelings, (like what you hear) or trust in a person (they have a reputation), you may find you are wrong latter on. You decide on God’s eternal word of truth, so you find out if they are wrong now.
Rom 11:33-34 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out! "For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has become His counselor?"
Apparently these seers do. Its all interesting and convincing unless one knows the word. They continue to speak where the Bible stops, disregarding Paul’s admonition not to go beyond what is written by the APOSTLES.
The conclusion of this matter
If you want to believe her you certainly can -I’d rather believe the God of Scripture. Be satisfied with what is written than choose new spirit stories from mystical experiences.
I have found there is no end to the spiritual dribble that comes out of the new revelators mouths. It does not matter if they are male or female. This is not revelation from heaven but from someone that believes they have a deeper walk with God than others.
There was no reason to bring anyone to heaven to tell us what it is like. For nearly 1,900 years we have been told to walk by faith (in the word already written), NOT BY SIGHT.
God closed His teachings by the last revelation given by the APOSTLE John, the last living apostle. Whatever takes the place of the written word opposes God and God hates. We know this because of what John says at the end of the book of Revelation that closes God giving man new revelation. “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:” (Rev 22:18)
Why would anyone accept her stories (or others) as accurate and from God? Whether its Choo Thomas, Mary Baxter, Linda Newkirk, or others that have mystical experiences and have allowed themselves to be deceived by it. What this proves is that people are willing to believe just about anything. All one has to do is use some bible words and say whatever they want under the auspices of a revelation from traveling to heaven. Apparently some believers will believe anything these days.
Just because Kat Kerr mentions Jesus, it does not mean she is speaking the truth on these matters, in fact she has proven she is deceived. Its your decision, just be sure to have the Bible open when you decide.
UTUBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyy-e5RPjg#t=48 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyy-e5RPjg http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Patricia+King++and+kat+kerr&sm=3
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